Quick Tech Tips: Oscilloscope Probing

Probe Tips

Recently someone contacted me for troubleshooting their boards for noise problems. In one of the pics they send, they were probing the circuit with one of those long standard alligator clip-styled probes for ground leads. Let’s discuss that.

Oscilloscope Probes
Probes

A probe’s primary job is to try to reliably transfer a signal from your circuit to the input circuitry of your oscilloscope for measurement. All the probes out there will have an input capacitance because of the compensation circuitry and the coaxial cable. You can represent this capacitor in a simplistic electrical circuit of the probe. Now the ground lead of your probe can be modeled as an inductor. When you are probing across a point in your circuit(Referenced to ground) with the long ground lead(for maybe ease of connection), what happens is that you are introducing a larger inductor in that return path. Or a fancy way of saying that is “Your loop inductance increases”. That inductance along with the probe capacitance can and will resonate when a signal with a high freq component is being measured by the probe. You will see ringing and overshoot at the edges of the signal. If you are let’s say probing a data signal(square waveform), the fundamental frequency or the data switching rate can be small, still, the ringing will be there because most circuits have a very fast-rising edge. That’s where all the high-frequency stuff lies and you will see your probe misbehaving.

So what’s the solution? Reduce the ground lead wire length to a bare minimum reducing the inductance of the leads. For that you have probes with tiny needle pins with the positive and earth leads very close to each other. This will ensure that resonance is at a much higher freq and your signal will be cleaner. You don’t have that tip in your oscilloscope kit, you can wind a small wire at the GND part as shown in the figure.

PS: Oscilloscope probes and measuring signals in itself is a fascinating topic with many nuances. If there is any interest in that, do let me know in the comments section. Might have to do a long series of posts to cover that.

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Advanced: Embedded PCB Components

Based on a Reddit question, I thought I should address the topic of Embedded components on PCBs. In its simplest form, embedding components is the process of taking any parts like capacitors, resistors, or active ICs which you might place on the top and bottom layers to the inner layers of your PCB. This means that the components are not visible anymore on the outside and you introduce a vertical stacking as a capability.

Embedded PCBs

Why do we need this? One of the primary reasons for using embedded components is to achieve miniaturization. With device sizes shrinking all the time embedding components inside PCBs enables designers to optimize space utilization and reduce the overall footprint. You can potentially reduce the PCB sizes by a factor of 30-70% going with this tech. By placing components very close, the parasitic effects, such as inductance and capacitance, can be minimized, leading to enhanced signal integrity and reduced electromagnetic interference. The components are shielded and sealed within the layers, safeguarding them against moisture, dust, and mechanical stresses making them suitable for harsh operating conditions. For thermal heat dissipation, since it’s sandwiched on all sides, thermal dissipation can also be better.

Embedded PCBs

There are different techniques for manufacturing a board like this. First, you go about choosing the components which will go inside based on the component heights. Components with larger thicknesses are not preferred on the inside. Manufacturing starts with the inner layers and placement of these parts via the normal soldering reflow process, then outer prepreg and resin layers are cut out via laser etching based on the component contours to fit the thickness. Now when they are heated, the resin flows over the components and creates a very strong bond.

The major drawback is cost and eventual repairability is non-existent. Altium and Allegro PCB softwares support embedding components with good mechanical integration and export. There is a good design rule guide worth exploring from Wurth Elektronik on how to go about designing embedded component boards.

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